Yaron london speaks with kol chai radio about his scathing columnagainst charedim

The percentage of working chareidim is lowerthan the non-chareidi. This is based on the statistics I use,provided by the Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS). Yes, it is quite possible that some chareidim do not give honestresponses to census officials and these stats are off, but I basemy comments on the CBS nonetheless. We are country that mustsucceed and prosper. Everyone benefits from the basicinfrastructure, such as roads, yet the chareidi tzibur is notcarrying its load.

The demographic realities, primarily thebirthrate simply states the community is not paying its way. Theeconomic development in the same community however is not in linewith the birthrate and therefore, the community is simply incapableof paying its own expenses and this must be picked up by otherslike me. KC: I am their mouthpiece and I am chareidi, and I believe I pay foryou no less than you feel you pay for me and other chareidim. youare making very broad generalizations.

The CBS is not talking about70-80% of chareidim but you are. London: When you are addressing social issues, one must speak ingeneralizations. KC: Do you want us, the chareidim to make generalizations about thechiloni tzibur? The chilonim are murderers. What about the Arabs?They are terrorists! London: You are correct from that perspective and yes, statisticallyspeaking, there are more terrorists among the Arabs than othersectors. KC: Yes, but regarding the Arabs, you would not dare to write a piecelike that as you did regarding the chareidim.

Why don t youaddress us as you do the other minority populations instead of thesweeping generalizations? London: I can tell you for example that there are more chareidim involvedin white collar crimes or if an elected official is in trouble withthe law, it is more likely to be a chareidi. KC: Not every defendant appearing before a court of law with a yarmulkeis a chareidi. London: Of course. Once he get into trouble he is not longer one of you.

Icannot say the same since if a chiloni stands before the court Icannot say he is no longer chiloni. I do not enjoy the same luxuryyou do. This conversation is beginning to degenerate and it is not goinganywhere. We can speak forever but we are not making any progress.You can continue telling me how you work, the same as I do, butthis is not the point. This is not personal and the statisticsspeak for themselves.

This was the point of my column. You invitedme to speak. I did not ask to appear on your show. KC: Yes you are correct, and thank you. We all read the article inYediot Achronot but I wanted to ask questions, seeking anexplanation.

Would you now prefer that the column never waspublished? London: One of the websites, Shofar, called to eliminate me, comparing meto Hitler. What can I say KC: These guys are a small fringe element. London: Glad to hear but many read the website for if not, it would nothave received the widespread publicity that it received. In mycolumn I thought of the English word, shrink and that is what Iused. Many interpreted this as eliminate but that was not myintention.

Would you have preferred a different word? KC: No not at all. But I would have preferred that the column was neverpublished. At the end of the day we are all one, part of a verysmall people and when the Jews are under attack, we unite butunfortunately, short of that look where we are here today. London: There is an important ideological battle at the core of thedispute.

This surrounds the future of our nation and our right toexist. The chareidi world in a modern society poses a real dangerto the country. You can call it hate if you wish, but the fact is Ido not hate you. nevertheless, people believe you are trying toimpose your ways on us, the nation, and this represents anexistential threat to the future of our nation. You simply fail tofulfill your obligation as an Israeli, as a partner in the nation.I don t know how many children you have.

You send your children tolearn and become torah scholars and rabbis. He will do great thingswhile I have to support him, me and the others like me while wealso have to defend the nation. Yes, he sits and learns gemara andyour sincerely believe that his merit provides us with an umbrellaof protection but I do not agree. I do not see it this way.

Your community does not have journalists. You must confer with anadmor and he decides and you then write what he says. KC: Any you don t have an editor? London: I have been working with Yediot for over 20 years and the newspaperhas never, never scrapped a column. In this case, the newspaperwould have preferred that this was never published yet it was. KC: The newspaper is getting ratings.

It is pleased. London: No, you are wrong but nonetheless it appeared. KC: I am sorry about one thing. I was hoping that the conversation, theinterview would have led to an understanding but it has not.

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