Readers' comments (3) Pat Bird |
9 May 2012 3:14 pm Masterful understatement, Mr Kirwan. Farmers have accepted concessions (or extra, very expensiveresrtictions have been accepted on behalf of cattle farmers) since2006 when preMT and tabular valuation were introduced. Since then a whole raft of tightening up alleged loopholes andextra testing has been thrown at cattle owners, which hasinevitably led to more cost if not less bTB. Government is broke. It has to claw cash back somehow, because assure as God made little green apples, HMG is not ready yet to sortout the maintenance source of bTB in wildlife.
But as I said on another thread, having been restricted under'suspended status' for ten long months, before Minister Paice getsout his big stick, he better talk nicely to his new computer, SAM. During those ten months, we have tested the whole herd twice,individual animals twice (and lost one), and yet received onlythree pieces of paper from AHVLA. None of which gave the testingwindow to which we are now supposed to adhere - or get heavilyfined. Which is not good enough by a long chalk Mr.
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9 May 2012 4:09 pm Mr Kirwan needs to ask himself how bovine TB is to be beaten. Whereis the greatest reservoir of infection? Answer, not in badgers butin the UK's near 10 million cattle. What will badger cullingachieve? At best a costly 16 per cent fall in TB.
Why are currentmeasures failing? Too much disease is spreading between cattlebecause: for decades controls over movements have been inadequate,the live test is only 80 per cent effective, and very few farmersbother with biosecurity measures. Throw in deliberate regulationinfringement (like ear-tag swapping and movements in defiance ofthe rules) and it is apparent why these new measures--and more--areneeded. Badgers make a contribution, but it is small and most oftheir infection comes from cattle (pats, mostly). Unsuitable or offensive? Report this comment Pat Bird
9 May 2012 6:27 pm Anonymous @ 4.09 You are falling into the trap of believing the guff of computermodelling and the 8 night debacle of well advertised cagetrapping.. But even Prof Donnelly's latest estimate (Ref: Donnelly & Hone) isthat up to 72.7 % of cattle breakdowns in the pro active areas ofthe Badger Dispersal Trial were down to infectious badgers.
She'sgetting there - it's more like 90 percent. I won't bore you with too much detail, but put 'William Tait','Liam Downie', 'Eamon Costello' or 'The Pathegenisis project' intoa search engine and you will see that with regular testing, cattleto cattle transmission is very rare. The internationallly used intradermal skin test has up to 96 percent sensitivety, and 99 per cent specificity at standardinterpretation, and when used as a herd test. (Ref: Hansard ) After a thorough but short clearance of infected / infectiousbadgers at Thornbury, we are told that "No confirmed cases oftuberculosis in cattle were disclosed by the tuberculin test in theten year period following the cessation of gassing".
( Ref Hansard) Any preMT, postMT, bio ballcocks, doubling up of tests,synchronised tests, or anything else which could explain this? The answer: "The fundamental difference between the Thornbury area and otherareas in the south west of England, where bovine tuberculosis was aproblem, was the systematic removal of badgers from the Thornburyarea. No other species was similarly removed. No othercontemporaneous change was identified that could have accounted forthe reduction in TB incidence within the area" (Ref: Hansard ) And personally, apart from the glaring misconceptions posted withsuch conviction, I deeply resent the implications of widespreadfarmer abuse of the TB testing system in your posting. If that were the case, then abattoir cases of TB would be throughthe roof, and they are not. Unsuitable or offensive? Report this comment.
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